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M. Basketball. Kenner League to Begin on Thursday, July 30

The Jabbo Kenner summer basketball League will begin play on Thursday, July 30 at McDonough Arena with an abbreviated schedule.

M. Tennis. Georgetown Tennis Names Adam Gross Assistant Coach

Georgetown Tennis Head Coach Gordie Ernst announced today that recent graduate Adam Gross will be staying on the Hilltop as assistant coach next season.

M. Golf. Former Hoya Golfer Chris Lange Qualifies for United States Senior Open

Former Georgetown University men's golfer Chris Lange (B'76) was one of two golfers to qualify for the United States Senior Open on Tuesday during a qualifier at Overbrook Golf Club, outside of Philadelphia. This is the third time that Lange has qualified to play in the U.S. Senior Open. The following story is published courtesy of the Golf Association of Philadelphia (http://www.gapgolf.org/).

Football. Football Players Gearing up for 2009 Season with Summer Workouts

Members of the Georgetown University football team are back on campus preparing for the start of the 2009 football season. This is the first in a series of updates that members of the Hoyas will provide during the course of the next two months.

M. Track. Georgetown Track & Field Announces Incoming Class

Director of Track & Field / Cross Country Patrick Henner announces the incoming class for the 2009-10 season. The incoming class consists of 17 student-athletes (8 men, 9 women) with one transfer, hailing from 12 states as well as the District of Columbia.

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RedHawk Coaches Watch Johnson

At the Adidas Take 5 Classic in Cincinnati this week, Kentucky standout Ricardo Johnson was being watched by coaches from many different programs. Johnson updated RedHawk Insider on who he noticed watching him at the tournament.

King City: Sullinger Delivers (Again)

CLEVELAND, Ohio – Jared Sullinger, over the span of three games, was extremely consistent. Go figure, one of the best big men in the nation for the past three years, Sullinger is writing a nice chapter at the King City Classic.

Brooklyn Riding Record Hot Streak

BROOKLYN, NY - The Cyclones have had a history of success since their inception, but the 2009 edition is currently riding a club record hot streak to begin the season. Heading into Wednesday's action, the Cyclones have won ten games in a row and the momentum has shown no signs of slowing down.

Kendrick A Hot Commodity

Few basketball players stock is as high as Jelan Kendrick's is at the moment. Texas is among a group -- that he refuses to name -- who are considered to be among the 6-foot-6 guard's top schools.

Lew Wallace Star Dawson Video Highlights

Upcoming junior Branden Dawson and his Gary Lew Wallace teammates took part in the Illinois team camp recently. Dawson's video highlights demonstrate his athleticism and overall potential as a basketball player.

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Experience and Depth

One of the more commonly blamed culprits for this year's disappointment in Hoyaland was experience, and, as an extension, depth of the experience.

The Hoyas had only an average of 1.11 years of experience per player on the floor this year, according to Ken Pomeroy, which ranked 317th out of 344 teams in DI.

There were less or similarly experienced teams who were more successful than the Hoyas. Kansas (333), Ohio State (327), West Virginia (291), and Butler (341) all had very successful seasons despite being young.

Georgetown was also not the only disappointment. Mississippi (344), Florida (312), and Oregon (330) all had very talented teams with disappointing seasons. And Arkansas (340) had a very similar collapse to the Hoyas.

This sort of anecdotal comparison is not yielding anything definitive. It certainly does not disagree with the idea that young teams are inconsistent; that they can be affected negatively by lack of experience. But it does not definitively say that, either.

I also ran some correlations on a team's experience versus different results, such as the overall Pomeroy rankings, offensive and defensive efficiency, Pomeroy's luck factor, etc.

One major issue with running this kind of analysis is that in college basketball, younger players are not just younger, but they are more physically talented. The NBA draft and other professional opportunities pull the players with the most talent before they can become experienced.

The result is a biasing of the data. First, across teams, the most experienced tend to be mid and low majors, which have significantly less talent than high majors. And secondly, even within high majors, teams like Kansas and North Carolina have more talent and less experience, year in and year out, than many of their conference counterparts.

In an attempt to balance for talent, I've done two things. First, I limited my subset to just major conference teams. This should partially eliminate the first issue. Second, I looked at the year over year change for the same team (for all teams), assuming that generally, teams recruit the same level of talent year in and year out. This really limits the amount of data to look at (Luck was only calculated from 2007-2009, so it is two year changes) but it does give a different perspective.

The result certainly does not imply a strong correlation.

Using major conference teams only for seasons ending in 2007-2009, the correlation between experience and Pomeroy Pythagorean winning percentage is .21 and the correlation between year over year change in experience and year over year change in Pythagoran winning percentage is .31. These are not incredibly low correlations in the real world, but they are hardly fantastic indicators of a driving force.

Perhaps the most interesting thing is that Pythagoran Winning % has the highest correlation of the results I tested. Offensive Efficiency correlated at about .20 when I limited to major conference teams; when I did year over year it was below .1. Defense was much stronger in year over year (~.2 again), but was not as strong in the major conference grouping.

Perhaps more surprisingly, in neither data set was there a correlation above .1 for either the Pomeroy "Luck" factor or the Consistency factor.

It does not seem that younger teams are actually more inconsistent or more likely to lose close games.

This goes against much of conventional wisdom. I'd like to do an expanded study at some time but for the moment, what does this mean for the Hoyas?

It seems to me it does not bode that well. I personally was chalking up much of the Hoyas lack of late game execution last season (as well as a general lack of execution) to a lack of experience. I assumed that this execution would improve with experience. That simply may not be true.

On the other hand, the above does not mean it is not true. But we can say that youth doesn't seem to be a uniform cause of "bad luck" (losing close games) or consistency.

Season Post-Mortem IV: More "Luck"

A couple of weeks ago, Tom took a look to see if part of the Hoyas' troubles were caused by "bad luck" due to abnormally high opponents' free throw shooting. He found that most of the Hoyas' bad luck came from playing good shooting teams.

Still, it was a good idea to look into "luck." Even at the end of the season, the Hoyas were still considered a good team by many of the statistical systems out there. That's because those systems look at full year points scored and points allowed. In most cases, those numbers predict actual winning percentage very well. When they don't, the system Pomeroy uses, for example, kicks the difference out to a factors he's unfortunately labelled "luck."

The prime driver of this statistic is performance in close games. (Blowouts can also play a role -- teams that blowout awful teams by more than other teams can be a bit overrated.) There's not doubt that actual random chance can play a role in close games. Think of how many times borderline calls have been made in a one point game, for example.

But there's also a whole lot of execution. Using "luck" to describe the fact that someone doesn't step on the end line in a blowout but does in a close game isn't quite right. Actual performance isn't so consistent as to attribute variances to chance; players play better sometimes and not as well other times. You can call that luck, and you may be right, but you certainly have to also leave open the possibility that college players can be affected by the situation.

In other words, did the Hoyas crumble down the stretch in tight games?

Subjectively, it certainly looked like it all year. How do the numbers back it up?


Year         Pomeroy Luck       Games Lucky/(Unlucky)
2005-06 -.035 -1.2
2006-07 .001 0.0
2007-08 .021 0.7
2008-09 -.113 -3.5

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The Hoyas lost three to four more games than they should have based on their points scored and points allowed last year. That's an additional three to four losses on top of most of what plagued the team all year -- it's not how much the Hoyas scored allowed, it's when.

So what causes this?

One possibility is this is simply a consequence of the fact that Pomeroy calculates his ratings on a full year basis. If the team really did, in fact, collapse halfway through the season and in effect become a different team, then the early season Hoyas might be holding up the rating and the late season Hoyas might have just stunk instead of playing poorly in close games. We'll check that in a later post.

Another possible cause is youth. I've looked into that here and found that while you can't rule it out, there's not a lot of evidence saying that youth is a common driver of "bad luck," which is somewhat surprising.

Another possibility, though, is that it really just was bad luck. Some shots rimmed out, some fouls weren't called, some opponents' shots went in. If that's true, then that is good news for Hoya fans -- this team may just get a bit better by regressing to the mean in "luck" next year.




Free Throw Defense

In looking at the Hoyas' profile on KenPom for the 2008-2009 season, and particularly at the shooting defense, the Hoyas weren't a respectable defensive team in terms of FG% and 3FG%-not up to the standards of the defensively quite good 2007 and 2008 teams, but better than the 2006 squad that reached the Sweet 16. But, Hoya opponents shot 70.8% from the line last year, a well above-average mark and much better than the 68.0% they shot in 2008. The question I wanted to know the answer to is why.

One potential answer is bad luck. The Hoyas had some clear examples of this, particularly losing to Cincinnati in overtime when the Bearcats shot 6-for-6 as opposed to the Hoyas' 4-for-6 in the extra session and Jonny Flynn's 15-16 in the OT loss in the Carrier Dome.

Another potential answer is fouling good free throw shooters. Against Syracuse, fouling Flynn as opposed to Onuaku gives Syracuse an extra almost half an expected point from the line.

To answer these questions, I examined Hoya opponents' free throw shooting beginning with the Big East conference opener, both in terms of how well the team shot compared to how well the team shot over the course of the entire season and how well the individual players shot that game compared to their season statistics. The answer is that the Hoyas were indeed screwed by the luck fairy in terms of opponent free throw shooting, which cost them several comes. Unusually, the luck fairy had an actual name: the St. John's Red Storm. Over the course of those 21 games, Hoya opponents made 10.6 more free throws than you would expect from their season stats, and 10.0 more free throws than you would expect from their players' season stats. The Red Storm were responsible for 9.2 and 9.3 of those, respectively. That means, in those other 19 games, Hoya opponents made 1.4 and 0.7 more free throws than you would have expected based on the team and player stats, respectively.

Here are the numbers for each game, with + numbers meaning the team made more free throws than you would have expected and - numbers meaning fewer made free throws than expected:
Opponent Team Players
UConn +1.1 +1.1
Pitt -1.4 -1.0
Notre Dame +3.6 +2.8
Providence -1.2 0.0
Syracuse -4.9 -4.1
Duke +2.5 +2.1
West Va. 0.0 +0.1
Seton Hall -0.3 -0.5
Cincinnati +1.2 +0.2
Marquette +2.3 +2.6
Rutgers +1.3 +1.1
Cincinnati +0.5 +0.1
Syracuse +4.0 +3.8
South Fl. -4.8 -5.3
Marquette -1.1 -0.3
Louisville -0.5 +0.6
Villanova +0.7 +0.2
St. John's +4.0 +4.6
DePaul -1.7 -2.0
SJU (BET) +5.2 +4.7
Baylor +0.1 -0.4

TOTALS +10.6 +10.0
Aside from the aforementioned St. John's games, a couple other games worth noting.
  • Syracuse did indeed shoot better than expected in their overtime win at the Carrier Dome. They were, in fact, about as hot from the charity stripe that night as they were cold in the Hoyas' 88-74 win at home.
  • Cincinnati's perfect-6 in the extra session was not particularly lucky. The Bearcats were only 7 of 13 in regulation- if they shot at their season average, that game doesn't make it to overtime.
  • The only other game where the FT luck advantage is close to the margin of victory is the Notre Dame game - 3 "luck" points in a game that ended with a 6 point margin.
  • The difference over these 21 games between the overall team stats and the per-player stats was 0.6 expected made free throws. I think we can lay to rest the idea that the Hoyas had a problem this past season with fouling their opponents' best free throw shooters.

Bottom line: On the whole, Hoya opponents made a lot of their free throws this season because the teams the Hoyas played were good at making free throws.

Areas for expansion:
1. Figuring out the numbers for the pre-BE season games. I'll add these to this post in a day or three.
2. Figuring out the same numbers for the Hoyas. This will be a separate post, and will include what the result would have been if both teams had shot free throws at their season averages.
3. Figuring out why Hoya opponents made only 68.0% of the free throws last year, when they made 70.8% this year and 71.0% in 2007.

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